Value-based care is not one size fits all — different diagnoses may require different approaches to achieve the Triple Aim. And every approach requires a partnership between clinicians and payers.

On the latest episode of The Scope with Dr. K, Brillstein and Kosinski talk about payers and clinicians working together, the similarities and differences in procedural and disease-based care bundles, how chronic conditions like Crohn’s and Ulcerative Colitis can fit in a fee-for-value world, and more.

“What helps makes models successful is a respectful partnership,” Lili Brillstein told Dr. Lawrence Kosinski, founder and CMO of SonarMD, on his podcast The Scope with Dr. K, which airs on Healthcare NOW Radio. “We’re accustomed to contracting with our dukes up and fighting; this requires everyone takes their fists down.”

Brillstein has experience forging those partnerships and creating new value-based care models to ensure all types of diagnoses fit. Currently CEO of BCollaborative, Brillstein spent years working at health plans, pioneering new value-based care partnerships.